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Posted by: Sue Smith {Email left}
Location: South Yorkshire
Date: Sunday 8th January 2017 at 2:57 PM
I just wanted to acknowledge the great help that Alan provided to me in researching WW1 fatalities relating to the village of Ellastone - his knowledge is second to none - and I wish him all the best in his retirement. He will be a great loss to research! Thanks Alan!

Posted by: Colin Peckham {Email left}
Location: Ballina
Date: Sunday 8th January 2017 at 6:19 AM
Hi, I am looking for information on my Great Grandfather Charles Alfred Peckham who enlisted with the Royal Hampshire Regiment Rifle Brigade 10.09.1914 for action in France, he was awarded a decoration qualifying date 30.07.2015, but not sure what or why. 1st Corps R.B. Reg. no. 3/4325, then I think Reg no. 1787 - 305506 and Victory Number C/1/103 B22 page 2088 [I think he got the Star Medal]. Cause of discharge A.O. 265/17 p.2. p.3g2 XV1. I dont have any idea what this all means as I am not a historian, so I hope that someone can help. I am very proud and up to this point thought that he only was in WW2, building a Chapel from a Warehouse in Cardiff Docks for US servicemen who were arriving in bags !! Hope someone can help
Posted by: Ian Parsons {Email left}
Location: Northampton
Date: Thursday 5th January 2017 at 5:08 PM
My Great Uncle Cyril Bulman was in the 1st Hants. in 1915 having enlisted on 2nd Sept 1914. On 23/10/15 he was promoted to unpaid L/Corporal. I have a copy of a transfer document dated 25 April 1916 which says he was transferred to be Temp 2nd Lieutenant 21st Bn. Northumberland Fusiliers dated 19th March 1916. I believe he trained as an officer at Cadet School GHQ. How long was this for as on 26th March he joined the 21st Bn. Northumberland Fusiliers in the Trenches at Hamel. He was blinded on 5th June 1916 but lived until 1981.
Posted by: Young Buzzard {Email left}
Location: Newton Abbot
Date: Monday 2nd January 2017 at 5:41 PM
Hello Alan,
Firstly A Very Happy New Year to you, and thank you for all your help in 2016.

It was whilst I was thinking about the Royal British Legion that I remembered an uncle who was a keen member of the Legion and I wondered if he had served in the Great War. I found his medal card which told me he has served with the Army Service Corps Number M/322368 he was called Cecil Prideaux Bound. I am interested in the M before his number, and I wondered if it denoted some form of mechanised detachment,uncle Cecil was not at all mechanical his only real interest was gardening. I look forward to your reply with interest, as always.
Thank You.
Reply from: Site Editor
Date: Monday 2nd January 2017 at 10:32 PM

Hi Young Buzzard,
Alan has really retired from the forum. It isn't a joke or anything.
Regards, Bob.
Reply from: Ian Willden
Date: Friday 27th January 2017 at 11:03 PM

THE PREFIX M COULD MEAN MECHANIZED, BUT IN MY RASC DAYS A LETTER ''T'' WAS NORMALLY THE PREFIX LETTER FOR TRANSPORT.I AM ALSO AWARE THAT HE COULD HAVE BEEN INTERESTED IN THE MOUNTED DIVISION AS HORSES WERE MUCH MORE PROLIFIC. TRY ANCESTRY, AND LOOK FOR HIS MILITARY SERVICE RECORD, IT MAY GIVE YOU THE UNIT NAMES AND THEATER OF CONFLICT. (IF ONE IS AVAILABLE).
Reply from: Becca
Date: Sunday 19th March 2017 at 11:17 PM

Hi there, Young Buzzard,
You will find information about him on Find My Past. I typed in his full name but his middle name has been omitted in his Army records.
Trust you will find his records interesting.
Kind regards
Becca
Reply from: Young Buzzard
Date: Monday 20th March 2017 at 10:31 AM

Becca

Thanks for the nudge, I have now looked at the attestation papers and have discovered that M 322368 is not my relative but someone else with the same name. At least my family tree will not contain this inaccuracy. Thanks again for your help.
Posted by: Bella {No contact email}
Location: Esher
Date: Monday 26th December 2016 at 12:31 PM
Dear Bob,

Thank you for your message.

May I wish you too a Merry Christmas and a very Happy 2017.

With kind regards.

Bella

Posted by: Bella {No contact email}
Location: Esher
Date: Saturday 24th December 2016 at 11:09 PM
Dear Alan,

Would like to wish you a Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year and to thank you for your generous support and help with my family tree over the past few years.

With kind regards.

Bella
Reply from: Bob
Date: Saturday 24th December 2016 at 11:40 PM

Hi Bella,
Alan won't get your message (previously, Alan was automatically emailed with every new message or reply from the forum, but that has now stopped). I'll pass your message on to him for you.
Reply from: Gerald A Archambeau Author
Date: Sunday 25th December 2016 at 7:56 PM

Dear Alan,

Marion and I would like to thank you for your wonderful service to your community in the UK and around the
world, and especially by helping me find the truth about my Jamaican born grandfather Inspector Herbert Theodore Thomas, whose contribution to the British Empire & Jamaica B.W.I. was erased and lost for decades. You my friend helped me; his Jamaican born grandson find and expose the truth for the world to see the facts about a good man's life of loss, and his humanity. Gerald & wife Marion.
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Sunday 25th December 2016 at 11:18 PM

Dear Gerald and Marion,
Thank you for your kind wishes. You know we will always keep in touch via air-mail and e-mail. I know you will look forward to the Spring in Canada and planting-out your geraniums and marigolds. It is a priviledge to have reasearched your ancestors.
With Christmas wishes and hopes for a Happy New Year,
Alan
Posted by: Pete {Email left}
Location: E Yorkshire
Date: Saturday 24th December 2016 at 10:36 PM
Hello Alan,
I wonder if you would be able to supply me with information about this soldier.
Ernest Grantham No146217 who was born on 4 May 1892 in York and served in the R Es.
Many, many thanks for all the work you have done for me. It certainly has helped me put the family together.

May I wish you and yours, and Bob a very happy Christmas, and good wishes for 2017.

Pete
Reply from: Bob
Date: Saturday 24th December 2016 at 11:34 PM

Hi Pete,
I guess you missed the red text that Alan has now retired from the forum. He will not be doing any more research as from this Christmas Eve, He is doing something on his own, which I may be assisting him with the programming.

Happy Xmas to you and best wishes for the New Year.
Posted by: Kez {No contact email}
Location: Queensland Australia
Date: Friday 23rd December 2016 at 11:29 PM
Just a note to wish you a Merry Christmas Allan and to thank you for your help and advice throughout the year!
It has been very much appreciated,
cheers Kez
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Friday 23rd December 2016 at 11:52 PM

Dear Kez,
Thank you for your kind thoughts. A Merry Christmas!
Alan
Posted by: Young Buzzard {Email left}
Location: Newton Abbot
Date: Tuesday 20th December 2016 at 11:48 AM
Good Morning Alan,
I have located yet another soldier from the "greater" Widecombe area who fought with the Devonshire Regiment through the Great War and returned to the UK afterwards to continue his life and start a family. He was Private Joseph George Warne No 15418. I have read his medal card and note his receipt of the 1914/15 star but I am not sure where the Devons fought in France in 1914/15, any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you once again for all your help, and I wish you the "Compliments of the Season".
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Tuesday 20th December 2016 at 4:15 PM

Dear David,
No service record has survived for Joseph George Warne so it is not possible to state his military service. The Army service-medal rolls recorded he served with the 2nd Battalion and the 10th Battalion Devonshire Regiment. As he first went overseas on 18th May 1915 he would have been part of a draft of reinforcements to the 2nd Battalion (8 Division, France and Flanders) before being posted to the 10th Battalion (26 Division, Macedonia) at some stage, perhaps after recovering from wounds.
With kind regards, and compliments of the season,
Alan
Posted by: Phil Moore {Email left}
Location: Padiham Lancashire
Date: Sunday 18th December 2016 at 11:13 PM
Dear Alan

I have recently found your site and I think it is a wonderful resource.

I wondered if you might be able to help me in obtaining more information about my grandfather George Nelson - or provide an insight into some of the information already available.

He was born in November 1885, joined the East Lancashire regiment in 1903 and served until 1918 when he is believed to have been killed on or around 26-3-18 in "France or Belgium". His regimental number was 7898 and he rose to the rank of 2nd Lieutenant. His death certificate refers to " E.Lan.R. attd. 4th E.Lanc R SF."

His army record is available online from the "Burnt Records" collection and I have copies of the sheets, some of which are damaged. I am trying to piece together what was happening and when. I am unsure of the areas and dates of action of the East Lancs regiment and wondered if these records are available as regimental diaries or otherwise. It would appear that he did not enter the action until 24-5-17 when he went to France but there is an end date on the record of 4-8-17 and no further information about any later military history presumably because this was when he was commissioned. His medal card contains the end date shown in his military history record, 4-8-17, with "Comm" before it and "2/4th East Lancs." The November 1918 Army List shows Nelson G as a 2nd Lieutenant with the date of (commission) 5-8-17.

His details were for some reason not on the CWGC site until I provided details some years ago.

I would be grateful if you could provide any information which may be of help.

Thank you

Phil Moore
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Monday 19th December 2016 at 12:31 PM

Dear Phil,
George Nelson had enlisted in the East Lancashire Militia before he enlisted in the regular army on 27th July 1903. His brief militia record is available from the Findmypast.co.uk website (pay as you go). It shows his duty on enlistment (training). Militiamen who transferred to the regulars received a bounty of £10, so it was worthwhile for a young man to join the Militia first and then join the regulars rather than going into the Army directly.
From 1903, George Nelson served in the 2nd Battalion East Lancashire Regiment at home and in India before having some furlough in the U.K. from March to September 1911. He appears to have married Grace Nield in Blackburn in 1911. He then served in South Africa from 9th December 1911 to 12th January 1914. He remained in the U.K. and from the outbreak of war from August 5th 1914 he appeared to have served in the U.K., apparently with the 3rd Battalion East Lancashire Regiment, as a Company Quartermaster Sergeant, at Plymouth where a daughter, Vera, was born in 1915 to Grace Nelson (Nield).
Grace Nelson died at Plympton St Mary in 1916 (GRO Deaths Plympton St Mary April-June 1916 volume 5b page 285). George then married Matilda Swindlehurst on 19th July 1916 at Plympton. As a soldier and widower he would have needed someone to look after his baby child and often such marriages were arranged with women connected to soldiers within the regiment.
George Nelson was sent overseas on 24th May 1917 as a Colour Sergeant but there is no record in the burnt documents of which battalion he was sent to join. It could well have been the 2nd/4th Battalion. He should, under normal circumstances, have trained with an officer cadet battalion for four-and-a-half months before being commissioned. However, he might have been directly commissioned in the field as he was already a senior Non Commissioned Officer and if he had been sent to France to join the 2nd/4th East Lancashire Regiment he could have been offered a commission with them in the trenches in 1917.
The British government journal “The London Gazette” recorded “The undermentioned Wt. [Warrant Officers] and N.C.Os to be 2nd Lts for service in the field” on 14th September 1917. See:
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/30283/supplement/9512
“In the field” suggests a different status from the usual “temporary Second Lieutenant” rank that was applied by the War Office to wartime service. It appears from the “London Gazette” he wasn’t “temporary” he was “in the field”.
He was commissioned into the 2nd/4th Battalion East Lancashire Regiment on 5th August 1917. The 2nd/4th Battalion had been in France since 2nd March 1917. They served with 66th Division until they were disbanded and absorbed by the 1st/4th Battalion East Lancashire Regiment on 19th February 1918, in France, during an Army reorganisation.
The war diary of the 2nd/4th is at:
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7355559
The war diary of the 1st/4th is at:
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7355557
They cost £3.45 each.
George Nelson’s officer’s service record will not contain much detail of his time as an officer. An officer’s “book”, as it is called, noted his locations, occupations and his annual “confidential report”, which we would now consider to be his “annual appraisal”, so whether recording this report was achieved while at war is uncertain. However, as his record from 1903 to 1918 has survived at The National Archives at Kew, Surrey, it should contain clearer details of his army career over and above the duplicate copy of his record in the burnt documents. The fuller record can be seen by visiting Kew or it can be ordered by seeking a quotation from The National Archives at:
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C720315
On 1st March 1918 the “London Gazette” recorded: East Lancashire Regiment: 2nd Lt acting Captain G. Nelson, E Lan Rgt. relinquishes the actg. [acting] rank of Captain on ceasing to command a Co[mpany] [dated] 20th Dec. 1917. See:
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/30553/supplement/2714
He had served as a 17-year-old from 1902 as a private and rose in rank to command a company at war.
With kind regards,
Alan
Reply from: Phil Moore
Date: Monday 19th December 2016 at 7:18 PM

Thank you very much Alan - I am very grateful to you. Just one other point.

The documents make reference to C.2.M.S George Nelson and I wondered what this stood for?

Thanks again.

Phil Moore
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Monday 19th December 2016 at 7:51 PM

Dear Phil,
It was C Q M S - Company Quatermaster Sergeant which was an apppointment held by a man with the rank of Colour Sergeant.
With kind regards,
Alan

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